7 thoughts on “Juneteenth…what? Kirk nails it!

    1. Anonymous

      It’s a Frederick Douglass quote:

      What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July? I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciation of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are, to Him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy — a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of the United States, at this very hour.

  1. And today the greatest country on the earth. Thank God we lived up to the standard laid before us during the revolutionary war and Constitution! 1776unites.com recognizes that very thing! Celebrate the 4th proudly!

    1. Anonymous

      “It was a great thing to achieve American Independence when we numbered three millions, but it was a greater thing to save this country from dismemberment and ruin when it numbered thirty millions.”

      You may prefer to recognize the date when Robert E. Lee surrendered, rather than a date that more forcefully ended slavery, because of the proximity of Juneteenth to July 4th. I’m sure if I search the archives, I’ll find your advocacy for a “Lee surrender day” holiday readily available, (even though there were still battles after that date). While I’m there, I’ll also be bombarded with your condemnation last year of President Trump when he pledged to recognize Juneteenth as a federal holiday.

      Why not just acknowledge the obvious, a thing I know you agree with, that the end of slavery is a good thing for EVERYBODY and a date that it ended in practice is a perfectly logical choice which everybody should celebrate?

  2. Well, this has turned. I believe you are looking for an argument (or a racist) that simply isn’t here. Your assumptions are purposely inflammatory as if you wish to stir a fight. But I will play along in acknowledgement, not that anyone listening to us wouldn’t know, OF COURSE the end of slavery is a good thing. Insulting that you thought you would find the opposite here. The date that ended the practice is celebrated and it is viewed as a positive by ALL in the nation! Is Juneteenth the end of slavery in the country or the end of it in Galveston, TX? It is not racist to think that Juneteenth is more divisive than helpful. It is not racist to have a different point of view on this topic. I think Kirk made some good points about when to celebrate the end of slavery. My love for country is NOT because of our sins, my love for country is because of the good things we have done and stand for! The original founding was good and right and it lead to, as Lincoln said, the fulfillment of those promises. That makes July 4th a special day for all Americans! I am sure the Bob Woodson from 1776 Unites would agree. And..you will never find references to Robert Lee “surrender day” because we have never made them.

    It is easy to “anonymous” and think evil of me from a far place on the internet. You are always welcome to continue this discuss on the air. I would welcome it.

  3. Anonymous

    I stated that I knew you in fact agreed with me that the end of slavery was a good thing and that Juneteenth was a day to be celebrated. No reason to play the victim and claim I insinuated you were a racist when what I said, plainly, is that it was “obvious” you “agree” with me that this is a day to be celebrated.

    Yes, I was sarcastic in a *different* part of my reply. Kirk suggested — in the post you shared approvingly — using another date as the holiday, such as the end of the Civil War. But if that was such a great date to celebrate, why only argue in favor of it after Juneteenth was signed into law? And why hold off on criticism of the holiday when it was President Trump who was pledging to make it a federal holiday? I was sarcastic because all this reeked of partisanship, even if unintentional.

    “My love for country is NOT because of our sins, my love for country is because of the good things we have done and stand for!” Why not recognize that Juneteenth is one of those things! Sending federal troops into Texas to end slavery in the state is a good thing to be proud of and something to stand for! I know you agree with me, just admit it!

    I’ll consider calling sometime. Frankly, I was much more dismayed by your views regarding freedom of expression in Turkey and the bill to ban books and tv shows and movies for young people on the basis of who a character might be married to or in a relationship with. That said, I proudly remain anonymous and this type of speech has a proud history in this nation.

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